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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,

And to this day I still say "What the Hell was that???"

Hope all is well.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to "Gettysburg."

In the scenes of Hood's first attacks, if I'm not mistaken, those were filmed in the actual Triangular Field. True?

Secondly, who was the Union officer that was killed during those scenes? He was riding a white horse.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any else see the Battle of Gettysburg supplement, narrated by Leslie Nielson, that's on the "Gettysburg" DVD?

The main thing that struck me is how dirty all the monuments were. The other thing is that they must have closed the park to film it as there was not a single live human being in any of the video. The front or west side of LRT was fairly overgrown.

Although there was a definite "cheese" factor, it was actually quite interesting and I loved seeing the battlefield as it was in the '50s.

As in depth as it was, I don't remember any shots of the railroad cut.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


In answer to who the officer that gets shot in Da Movie, ( I am sorry Allan, I just cant help myself! ), I would think it has to be one of the officers from the 124th NY. Its suppose to be either Ellis or Cummins..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Corydon,

I like you did enjoy that. Yes I too was struck by how dirty the monuments were......

As an aside, I am wondering what the new media is going to look like in the VC..

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GKWEAGLE1 wrote:
In answer to who the officer that gets shot in Da Movie, ( I am sorry Allan, I just cant help myself! ), I would think it has to be one of the officers from the 124th NY. Its suppose to be either Ellis or Cummins..

It's OK Jim
Crhis - yes, that was indeed Tri-field even with some parts of DD's boulders.
As to the Officer - it is either Van Horne Ellis or Cromwell - Cummins is by Smith's guns and never goes down into the frey
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Allan,

Back to that part again...........

Van Horne Ellis or my shorten version to Ellis, but noting the order of battle in Pfanz , Gettysburg Day 2, Cummins shows as the Lt Col. And I have always understood that they went down together..............

And were KIA together............

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim - Actually I understood what you meant but least someone confuses the Good Col with our own Lt-Col (Bvt) "Ellis"

Please keep in ind that OOB is just that - it shows the make-up of the unit, nothing else.

If you recall I did 2 Presentations on the fight in Tri-Field (The Hurricane Muster of 2004 and The Sunshine Muster of 2006), so I'm somewhat more familiar with the subject.

All available sources state that Ellis & Cromwell mounted up ("The men must see us today") whence Cromwell led the 1st charge down the hill and subsequently got shot down. Ellis then exclaimed "My God! Boys - your Major is down! Will no one save him?" IIRC, 4 men tried to pull the body back, but failed at that attempt.
Ellis himself went down during 2nd (counter) charge and also got shot down. Since this 'wave' drove Confederates all the way down - the "Orange Blossoms' were able to retrieve both bodies and laid them on a 'flat rock' - probably the boulder that is reasonably close to 124th NY's Monument.
Cummins, meanwhile, stayed 'up top'. At some point he will run up to Smith's guns and will receive a concussion when a shell explodes nearby and he got hit by one of the cannons that moved. Charles Weigant - Capt of Co A - will then assume the command of the Reg't.

You can consult Pfantz' Day 2 and Weigant's Regimental History on the matter.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Hi Allan,

My bad.. I had forgotten about you leading two tours in that area..

I stand corrected sir...

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