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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Gettysburg, Civil War Journal and a birthday Reply with quote

Hi all,

Today the day dawned on another birthday for yours truly..
No I am not 29 again.. I am now well over 50!!

But I digress..

After my customery routine of up and at em, I settled down to watch 45 minutes of Civil War journal..

Now granted these CWJ have to be well over 10 years old, but still I find them at times very well done. Except this morning............

I almost spit out my mouthful of bran cereal, as I here Gary Galagher tell the audiesnce once again it was over shoes....

Then we moved onto the action of the second day. Kathy Harrison was the historian at the park when this was done and she goes on about how the 20th Maine saved the Union army, Another mouthful almost all over the living room rug, finally to picketts charge. I at least get through that..

And then low and behold, we get into the story of the only civilian killed at Gettysburg. With our recent well ongoing discussion here of that story, I turned off the TV and muttered something ruining my day, say good bye to Bev and headed off to work....

We all continue to wonder how these myths continue to live on.........

Its because of shows like this..............

Damn... Well at least the rest of the day is my day... So back to celebrating............

Jim
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy Birthday first of all.


As for the shoes. Do you think that idea can totally be written off? Where there's smoke there's fire. I listened to James McPherson's commentary on the "Gettysburg" DVD and although he didn't try to make the argument that it was definitely what happened, he didn't totally dismiss it either. If the Reb army needed shoes, or any kind of provision, I don't see how the story could be that far-fetched. Didn't Heth at least attempt to acquire items such as that ahead of the main body?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Corydon,

I would agree except for this...

1.) Its based on Harry Heths after action report, written some time AFTER the battle, and we are talking YEARS afterwards. It was also during the time when the LOST CAUSE was over taking the Southern part of the CW and after R.E. Lees death.. Every one was more concerned about RELs legacy and Heth was included... And he was more CYA then anything else.

2.) Jubal Early of Ewells Corp had been through GB some I thikn 5 days before. He had in essence cleaned out the town of anything that had not been hidden, spirited away or tied down.. He striped it clean.. Even down to the last HORSE SHoe.. So there was nothing left. And every one IIRC in the ANV knew this fact.

3.) Heth was brand new to division command. And his commander was A.P. HIll.. Hill had his dander up.. And Heth was looking to make a name for himself. With both of these guys who were very AGGRESIVE, spoiling for a fight, it was bound to happen...

4.) A certain Union Cavalry Commander, known to us all as JNO Buford set a wonderful trap for old Harry... JD can fill you in on that one..

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy Birthday Jim! By coincidence, today would have been my Father's 83rd birthday.

As for the shoes, please, let's not go there again. Next we'll be talking about Buford's repeating carbines for crying out loud

Regardless of the evidence, some myths just refuse to die.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,

Allow me to add to the birthday wishes. As someone who has actually appeared in a program similar to what you were watching, let me say one thing--I have no doubt that Gallagher talked about the shoes, but most of those programs start out with a certain idea firmly planted in mind. Nothing you say will change that. If what you constantly tell them runs counter to what they want to hear, your comments end up on the cutting room floor. In my case, I told them over and over that Everton Conger never met Edwin Stanton. Not only do they have Stanton "bringing Conger into the chase" they even have them drinking together. Talk about blowing your bran (somehow that doesn't sound right ).

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,

One of these days I will find the message sent by Early to Heth saying that there will still plenty of shoes at the Nike Factory just outside of town.

Hope you had a fine Birthday, and enjoyed a great meal at Charlie Brown's.

Regards from North Jersey,

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Dinner was wonderful...

Though the news of your mothers health programs dampened the celebration a tad... Just a tad.

Base, you and I have both said that some day we are going to open a shore store on Baltimore street and call it the "Shoe Factory"...

Think of the bucks we can make!!!

Thanks to all of you for your best wishes!!

Jim
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GKWEAGLE1 wrote:
... we are going to open a shore store on Baltimore street and call it the "Shoe Factory"...


Naaaaaah. What you need to do is open a BAR and call it the "Shoe Factory"!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy Birthday you old Owl you

OK - this is just hot from the press:
Long-lost letter in Rob't E Lee's home revealed that Buford had repeaters and there were plenty of shoes in Gettysburg. The 'problem' if you will is that on the night of June 30th Buford's Boys took all the shoes and set them up on the porch of Holiday Inn (the one on Baltmimore St, not on Rte 30) and used them for shooting practice.
When the smoke cleared - Gettysburg had no shoes left (which of course poor Harry Heth had no way of knowing) and the Cav. Boys had no ammo left (which explains why they couldn't use the repeaters next day). Unfortunately, one stray Yankee bullet went through HI front door, made a sharp turn to da raht, passed through a door of the small structure next to it, bounced around couple of walls, somehow found it's way outside (the letter describing the event is damaged and this portion of it is ineligible to read), made a 180, came in through the bath....er...kitchen window and killed the town's only whor...er...civilian!

Hope that clarified it for all y'all
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


You know something Allan? I just opened this.. And I am still laughing!!

The other crazy part, is that your little scenario makes as much sense as some of the ghost stories I have heard.. Well more sense that is!!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's because I know EVERYTHING about the Battle of Gettysburg and the Ghost Story tellers obviously don't
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy Birthday Jim!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Nugent wrote:
What you need to do is open a BAR and call it the "Shoe Factory"!!!


As seen on one of T-Shirts:

Gettysburg - A Drinking Town with a Historical Problem

I believe our "in-house T-Shirt collector" has one, no?
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I think Phil Muskett has one, I;ve seen him wear it.

Cool shirt, I gotta pick one up.

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