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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: Favorite Movie Related To The Civilwar Reply with quote

Just curious as to what your favorite movie or mini series is. Mine would have to be Gettysburg as well as Gods And Generals. I can watch both of them and never get tired of either of them. I know, call me cheesy, but hey its me. Also I would like to add one that was a TV movie made about 10 or 15 yrs ago based on the Monitor vs Merrimack engagement. I can not remember the title for the like of me cause I want to find it on DVD.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite movie is a short one.....I believe it's called "Incident at Owl Creek".
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeremy,

The movie was titled Ironclads and starred Virginia Madsen and Alex Hyde White. Was one of the first movies ever made for Ted Turner's new channel TNT back in 1991 . IIRC, was a major snoozefest, as most of the story dealt with the love story of the main characters than the actual clash of the Monitor and the Virginia. Not sure if it is on DVD, but easily can be checked if you peruse a site like Amazon.com

As for CW movies that stick out with me, while both are historically nutso, I loved The Horse Soldiers and Shenandoah when I was a kid.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its a chick flick, then forget about it. I cant name the number of movies I have seen with a war theme, but the underlying plot is centered around a love fest. Cold Mountain was the same way. Im glad they shot Jude Law at the end :geek:
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glory. Hands down, no question. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, The Outlaw Josey Wales too, though they weren't what I'd call Civil War movies.

Ron Maxwell couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll go with the one Mark mentioned -- "Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge." Based on a story by CW veteran Ambrose Bierce, it originally ran, IIRC, as an episode of the Twilight Zone.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zouave wrote:
I'll go with the one Mark mentioned -- "Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge." Based on a story by CW veteran Ambrose Bierce, it originally ran, IIRC, as an episode of the Twilight Zone.

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Thanks Zouave...I couldn't remember the name. :albino:
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry:

Liked "Glory" as well. But I have a slight problem with it & let me preface this by saying that I realize it's only a movie. However, I wish they would have made mention of the fact that a soldier of the 54th Massachusetts won the Medal of Honor. IIRC, Sgt. William Carney of the 54th was the first of his race to win the award. Also wish the audience would have been made aware that a couple of the soldiers in the 54th were sons of Frederick Douglas.

Agree with your assessment of Ron Maxwell.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree with the assessment of Ron Maxwell, as two of my favorite Civil War movies are Gettysburg and Gods and Generals. I also adore Gone With the Wind (and yes, I know the timeline in the movie is way off). I have only seen bits and pieces of Glory, but I would rank that one highly, as well, based upon what I have seen.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the truly good movie or mini-series about the CW still remains to be made. "Glory" was quite good, but still had some problems and I think came across as a little too self-consciously "important" at times. "Gettysburg" was fair to middlin', and I still think may have been better off had it been left as the made-for-TV miniseries it was intended to be. "Gods & Generals" was simply horrible in almost every respect, to the point of bordering on the reprehensible. (Ron Maxwell couldn't direct traffic on a one-way street.)

What would be interesting is for someonw to adapt "John Brown's Body" as a mini-series.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I always have to tell myself about Glory is that it is telling the story of African Americans in the Civil War, and the men who led them, using as a basis the story of the 54th MA. I don't think there was any way of telling the MOH story without interrupting the very powerful and moving ending, unless as a written blurb.

Many, many things were "toned down" in the movie because the truth was way too Hollywood: Shaw's recent marriage, his death upon the very parapet of Wagner, his statement in response to the question posed by the brigade commander: "If this man should fall, who will take his place?" "I will". In the movie, Broderick (genius casting, IMO) asks the question, and Andre Braugher answers. Also the presence of Douglas' sons in the regiment, and the very low number of former slaves. Would the movie have been more accurate had these been correctly represented? Sure. But it would not have been as good, IMO.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I would like to see is someone along the lines of Bruckhimer or Spielberg doing a civilwar movie. We already know their acomplishments on WW2(Spielberg) and Black Hawk Down (Brukheimer). THose two could definently pull top notch actors and make the movie happen.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeremyScott wrote:
... Im glad they shot Jude Law at the end :geek:
Me too - at least now I get a shot at Nicole Kidman (sigh!) :albino:

*.GETTYSBURG - no ifs ands or buts about it.
*Glory would come a close second.
*Gods & Generals grew on me simply because after initial sock of disappointment - I went home and re-read both Jeff's G & G and Bud Robertson's Stonewall - The Man, the Myth, the Legend. IMHO, it is incredibly important to put "everyone present in the scene" into the proper context. Once I was able to dissern who everyone was - it went easier (but I still believe that the editing was horrible)
*GWTW would be next (funny but for EONS I simply HATED IT! Still can't say that Scarlett is anything I'd ever like)
*HBO's Hunley (w\Armand Assante as Lt Dixon and Donald Suterland as P.G.T. Beauregard)
*Shennandoah - if anything for Jimmy Stewart's Prayer :)
* Cold Mountain - I am perfectly comfortable in my masculinity to watch chick flicks. The Crater scenes are unbelievable and the depiction of Home Guard makes one think if Confederacy EVER had a chance. Oh, did I mention NICOLE KIDMAN?!??! :geek:

There are more, but for the sheer (ahem) 'Entertainment' value - I believe I should mention How the West was Won (I mean - come ON - the Duke as Sherman and Col. Potter as Grant.....LMAO!)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good assessment on all the movies Allan and I agree with you on G&G. There is one movie that is not really a war movie as the ones listed but you guys will call it a chick flick and that is Hallmark's The Love Letter with Campbell Scott (as in George C Scott and Collen Duhearst's son ) as the young Union Col from Mass. The kind of story that takes you back and forth through time to the Civil War and present day. yeah.. I know .. another one of those What ifs? I like it every time I watch it and am still looking for that Union officer's desk ! :)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Ken Burns Reply with quote

I'll guess that I to vote for the PBS series "The Civil War" by Ken Burns. I own it and can listen to Shelby Foote talk for hours.

I also like Ken Burns' "Baseball".
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